DrunkenPM Radio Ep. 4 - Gender Bias in Project Management

Gender Bias in Project Management

Episode 4 of DrunkenPM focuses on the impact of Gender Bias in the Project Management space. This episode consists of two interviews. The first is with a group of women who work in Digital Project Management (Larissa Scordato, Tera Caldwell Simon and Patrice Colancecco Embry). The second interview features Agile Coach Natalie Warnert






Show Notes:
Interview 1 : Gender Bias in Digital Project Management - with Patrice Colancecco Embry, Tera Caldwell Simon and Larissa Scordato
00:05 Intro
01:18 Women in Digital Project management Interview start and guest introductions
04:42 Meet the Dexters
05:25 Being a PM comes with challenges, does being a female PM carry additional challenges
9:38 Reaching out to your team for validation and support
12:08 Getting support may not fix the actual problem
13:50 How much does experience factor in
14:35 Does having a commanding presence only come with experience and how does gender impact your ability to take the room
16:46 Larissa is not sorry for interrupting
17:41 Letting your team take the floor
18:28 Note Taking
20:20 Generational gender bias
22:50 An apology is nice, a public apology is better
23:00 Advice for young women who are new to Project Management
24:05 Having difficult conversations and owning your role
24:40 The power of being knowledgable about your topic
26:00 The importance of assigning a notetaker
26:45 Getting a mentor
27:19 Know that you are good at what you do
27:35 How gender bias has an impact on your use of the phrase “I don’t know.”
29:30 When you get caught now knowing
30:09 Pretending to be brave enough / Imposter Syndrome
32:00 Taking care when you act “As if…”
33:30 “You’re either emotional, or your’e a bitch…”
35:20 Putting on the dominant female role and protecting your team
38:00 The “Sorry” thing
44:20 Advice for Men
46:10 Contacting Tera, Larissa and Patrice
46:40 Closing

All the participants in the above interview are "on the Twitter"
Larissa Scordato: twitter.com/larissascordato
Patrice Colancecco Embry : twitter.com/patrice108
Tera Caldwell Simon: twitter.com/tcaldsimon

Interview 2 - Gender Bias in Agile - with Natalie Warnert
47:07 Intro to the Interview with Agile Coach Natalie Warnert
47:50 Natalie’s involvement with Women in Agile
48:42 Women in Agile events are not just for women
49:27 Is it more difficult for a young woman to break into Agile
50:40 Behavior at a conferences
51:33 An example of differing standards
52:27 Gender bias, age bias and the Agile Coach
53:30 Women attendees at conferences
54:06 Advice for women entering the Agile space
55:35 Carrying yourself with confidence and owning it
56:00 Being more mindful of gender bias
57:31 What is an Aspiring Feminist?
60:10 Is the bias as significant in Agile as it is in waterfall?
61:20 Proving yourself
62:30 Support among women in Agile and at Agile conferences
65:00 Fighting over the slice of pie
65:39 Not tracking gender at conferences
66:00 Tracking down Natalie

Natalie can be reached via her website at nataliewarnert.com

Where to find the podcasts...

A friend send me a question via text today asking where to subscribe to my podcasts. I'm working trying to make the answer less complicated, but for right now, there are three answers because I post podcasts in a few places and not all of them can be subscribed to through iTunes.

LeadingAgile SoundNotes 

Interviews with the leadership and transformation consultants at LeadingAgile as well as our clients. These podcasts focus on the tactical application of Agile in various sized organizations. These are published very close to weekly.

You can subscribe to these via:
iTunes
SoundCloud

Projects at Work 

Interviews with thought leaders and practitioners in the Agile space. The range of topics tends to be a bit wide but I do try to make sure that the conversations would be relevant to anyone moving from the traditional side of the house over to a more Agile way of working.  This publishes close to weekly, depending on my teaching schedule.

You can check out these podcasts on my blog The Reluctant Agilist on Projects at Work. The site does require you to register, but it's free.

DrunkenPM Radio 

These are longer format interviews that are meant to dig deeper on specific topics and will often times include topics that step outside of Agile a bit. Recent conversations have included Bimodal, Coaching Burnout and Gender Bias in Agile. These take a little more editing. I'm trying to get them to be posted close to monthly, but sometimes the window is longer.

You can subscribe via
SoundCloud

David Bland on Lean Startup + Design Thinking + Agile

Check out my ProjectsatWork interview with David Bland on how his work at Precoil blends Lean Startup + Design Thinking and Agile.

Click here for the interview

Click here to check out Precoil

Agile in Education Update

Check out my Projects at Work interview with the folks who got together at the 2016 Scrum Gathering to formalize the revolution Scrum is bringing to education.

Click here for the interview


To Learn More about the work that came out of the meeting in Orlando, click here -> http://www.agileineducation.org

Maria Matarelli and the Agile Marketing Academy

Maria Matarelli is on a mission. She and her partner Nic Sementa want to bring Agile practices to the marketing world. In this Projects at Work podcast Maria and I talk about the Agile Marketing Academy, why it exists, how it can help and some of the impressive results they've seen for their clients so far.

And if you'd like, you can skip the interview and go straight to the Agile Marketing Academy.

DrunkenPM Radio 3: How to Cope with Coaching Burnout - with Lyssa Adkins

Lyssa Adkins is one of the leading voices in Agile coaching. A founder of the Agile Coaching Institute, her book “Coaching Agile Teams: A Companion for ScrumMasters, Agile Coaches, and Project Managers in Transition”  set the bar for what it means to be an Agile Coach. In this interview Lyssa and I talk about what’s happening with the Agile Institute, coaching middle management and how to deal with coaching burnout.


Show Notes
The Super Nervous Interview Begins 2:10
Focused Listening 4:05
Four essential skill sets of coaching 6:00
The difference between “coaching” and being a professional coach 6:30
Big things going on at Agile Coaching Institute 7:45
Coaching Middle Management 8:40
The impact of the cultural change Agile brings 11:40
Is there a limit to how much change we can handle and where are the boundaries 12:30
Background on the burnt out coach14:30
Burn out is on the rise with Agile Coaches 15:00
Finding a path you can be on with heart 15:45
Finding the heart in letting the org become what it wants to become 16:40
Checking your own ambition 18:20
Goal setting and knowing when to walk away 19:00
What to do with the organizations on Life Support 19:15
Hospicing the death of old systems 20:20
Trying to reach people who don’t want to take your hand 21:30
Meeting confusion with curiosity 22:20
Agile coaches are agents of human evolution 24:00
How Agile Coaching Institute helps organizations 24:30
Developing a coaching capability that is in sync with where the organization’s goals 25:45
How to find and develop the coaches in an organization 27:45
How to help a burnt out coach/change agent 31:25
The importance of self-care if you want to be present and help others 32:50
Exposing why people avoid self-care35:00
Ways Lyssa practices self-care 35:30
The job is to “allow” 37:05
You can’t let go because it’s the tension that holds it together 38:18
What happens when you do let go 38:50
Lyssa Reads Poetry 40:25
All of us in the Agile community are part of evolving our capacity for complexity 41:45
We are in the time of organizations being living thing 43:05
How to contact Lyssa 43:25
Lyssa’s advice for the coaches who are feeling burned out 43:55
Lyssa’s Coaching Agile Teams book is 6 years old 44:45
Thanking Lyssa for making me uncomfortable (in a good way) 45:50
Upcoming Events for Lyssa 46:00
Links Mentioned in the Podcast
Lyssa in Twitter https://twitter.com/lyssaadkins
The Agile Coaching Institute
http://www.agilecoachinginstitute.com/coaches/
2016 Scrum Gathering Agenda http://bit.ly/1Upsg9W

Perseverance - Meg Wheatley http://amzn.to/1W4PSmM
Little Guide to Empathetic Technical Leadership - Alex Harms https://leanpub.com/littleguide
Agile Base Patterns, a Cross-Quadrant Conversation - a conversation between Lyssa Adkins and Dan Greening http://www.infoq.com/articles/agile-base-patterns
Iawake.com http://www.iawaketechnologies.com
The Heart Aroused: Poetry and the Preservation of the Soul in Corporate America - David Whyte http://amzn.to/1NtifV7

Personal Agility Canvas 2.0

Here is my presentation from the 2016 Global Scrum Gathering in Orlando and the new Personal Agility Canvas.

Thanks to everyone who showed up for the session.

Presentation
Canvas

PMP Rehab: Personal Agility Canvas 2.0

I'll be leading a workshop to introduce the new version of the Personal Agility Canvas at the 2016 Scrum Gathering in Orlando on April 18 at 3 PM. If you know anyone who is struggling with getting their head (or heart) around Agile, please encourage them to attend and I promise they will leave with a plan of attack to improve their adoption of Agile.

Podcast Interview with Woody Zuill on Mob Programming

My Projects at Work interview with Woody Zuill is live. Woody is an incredibly inspiring guy because of the work he does and the passion that he brings to it.

I hope you will enjoy the interview.

Catching Up... 27 Podcasts, 5 Blog Posts and a Chicken

Me holding a chicken

Sometimes, when you leave for the airport so you can go teach, you forget your guitar. (Actually, it isn't really a "sometimes" thing... more of a "once" thing... NEVER AGAIN).

When that happens you find yourself staring at your Kanban board looking at the cards that never move... like the one that says UPDATE YOUR BLOG!

I've been total crap at keeping this up to date. Sadly, my own blog is always the last place I remember to post new things, so... here is an onslaught of things  I have posted since the Agile 2015 Interviews.

I'm going to try (again) to suck a bit less at keeping this up to date.

If you like any of these, the best place to see updates from me on podcasts is on Twitter @mrsungo or @drunkenpm. (And there are some REALLY good ones coming.)

drunkenPM Radio Interviews (Episode 3 is coming soon)

• Episode 2: Bimodal with Steve Elliott and Dennis Stevens (2/2016)
• Episode 1:Hybrids and Organizational Agility with Shane Hastie and Data Literacy with John Cook and Troy Magennis (12/2015)

Projects at Work Podcast Interviews
Note: these require registration, but it is free

• Jim Benson - Personal Kanban, Lean Coffee, his new Distributed Teams workshops and great new stuff coming from Modus Cooperandi (3/2016)
• Johanna Rothman - Becoming Influential Agile Leader and the workshops she is doing with Gil Broza (3/2015)
• Dean Leffingwell Scaled Agile Framework 4.0 or "The one where Dean completely changed the way I think about SAFe "(2/2016)
• Mike Vizdos - Starting, Practicing, Coaching and Leading Scrum - Note: You should listen to this one because... Vizdos (2/2016)
• Manny Gonzales - The new mission of the Scrum Alliance  (1/2016)
• Mike Cohn - Mike Cohn on when we need Estimates and Why (12/2015)
• Kathryn Kuhn - Human Centered Design Thinking and Agile (11/2015)
• Rex Madden - Estimating and Answering "How Long, How Much?" (10/2015)
• John Miller - AgileSchools and using Empathy Maps with students (10/2015)
• Michael Tibbert - The challenge of moving from PM to Scrum Master (9/2015)

LeadingAgile SoundNotes Interviews 

• Tim Wise -  Agile Bodhisattvas and Developing Empathy For Change  (3/2016)
• Dan Greening -  The Five Characteristics of Sustainable Agility  (3/2016)
• Russ Pena - Managing Value in the Portfolio (3/2016)
• Mike Cottmeyer - The Focus of Agile in 2016 (2/2016)
• Jann Thomas - Why Should the ScrumMaster be a Full Time Role? (1/2016)
• Derek Huether - The Agile Baltimore Unconference (12/2015)
• Mike Cottmeyer - The Rise of Bimodal IT (12/2015)
• Tim Wise - Portfolio Telemetry and Optimization (11/2015)
• Russ Pena - The Integrated Business Analyst (11/2015)
• Isaac Hogue - The Importance of Measurable Progress in Agile Transformation (10/2015)
• Tim Wise - DevOps in Product Development Organizations (10/2015)
• Robert Sfeir and Adrian Wible - Coaching Q&A : Answering Student Questions  (9/2015)
• Andrew Fuqua - ATDD, BDD, TDD and More (9/2015)
• Mike Cottmeyer - The Emperor Has No Clothes Part 2 (9/2015)
• Chris Spagnuolo - System Design for Innovation Hubs in Large Enterprises (8/2015)

LeadingAgile Blog Posts  

• Should We Limit WIP for Organizational Change (3/2016)
• Why Bimodal IT Matters (2/2016)
• Digital PM Summit Report on the Use of Agile in Digital Agencies (10/2015)
• This Year's Model - Hybrids! (10/2015)
• Personal Agility Canvas (9/2015)